03
2012More on Andrej
I took the time to read the New Yorker article referenced by the Washington Post in my last post.
It is well worth reading.
With all due respect to the esteemed Washington Post, Pejic doesn’t really seem to identify as male any more than he does female. His focus is, much like was discussed in my missive on Psychology Today, that there is no benefit to identify as one or the other.
He says he never did “drag”; he just dressed pretty, in the same way girls do. Semantics, perhaps, but evidence of a certain mindset.
He does not divide the world into girls and boys, and roles for each, orientations and attractions. He just takes it as it comes, with no labels.
Its an alluring ideal, compromised only by his repeated concessions to the realities of life. A man approached him and then left disappointed. Andrej’s take: “He thought I was a girl.”
He’s not considering a sex change, but says things like, “Obviously, as a kid, you think about it: what would life be like if I was born a girl?”
Another quote: “I want to look like me. It just so happens that some of the things I like are feminine.” Clearly, he sees things as much in male-female terms as anyone else, even if he is fighting it.
And, he knows to move differently depending on whether he is modeling men’s or women’s clothes. Just acting, maybe, but conforming to gender roles, still.
I like his idea of moving past gender, at least in theoretical terms. But, you can’t say something is feminine, as he does, if you don’t want to be classified as male or female.
If you’re saying that a man looking as feminine as the most beautiful woman makes the statement that ideas about gender are obsolete, then the whole vocabulary of femininity and masculinity has to be dropped.
Like the wearer, the clothes, the behaviors just are what they are.
Easier said than done.
shantown
Discussions like this will go on and on, with people expressing their view. People always want to dig into things and make them fit their own paradigm.
Personally, who cares? In his modeling he is one stunning image.
trish1700
I can relate to this. While not as pretty as Pejic, I too was a “pretty boy” Soft, fine blonde hair, big blue eye, full sensual lips, very fair skin, a soft, smooth body with no hint of muscles. Add to this the total lack of testosterone fueled aggression and you have a very “girly boy”. So while in my mind I had no gender issue I radiated “femininity”. After all these years I still get caught up in the male, female debate. When I am ‘dressed the way I like’ I still refer to it as “wearing women’s clothes” or “dressed as a woman”, even though I have no desire to “be a woman”.
I have come to the point where I just accept my desires as me being me. I have also decided we can analyze all this to death, just like any other aspect of life.
cdjanie
Ok, Trish. As you can see, I am tossing around this concept and seeing if maybe it fits for me. So, let me ask this: when you are “wearing women’s clothes” do you behave the same way you do when you are wearing men’s clothes?
trish1700
As far as my basic personality goes, no. I am a laid back, very gentle, kind person. Very considerate of others. Wearing women’s clothes not only allows me to look the way I prefer, but also to behave the way I prefer. As Trish DuBois I FEEL I no longer have to act “manly” or macho. I am 6’2″, a “big guy” most of my life, which tends to make other men feel threatand (SP) for some reason. More importantly, as Trish I have NOTHING to hide, Call me a sissy, fag, queer, gay, pervert, cross dresser, homo., what ever, that’s your problem. I feel relaxed, excited, alive. Not really a threat to anyone male or female. The fact that I have found that many people fine Trish attractive and desirerable (SP) makes it even more rewarding.
I am speaking as a person who has been very successful and enjoyed doing the “male things”, son, grandson, husband, father and grand father. Maybe I am rewarding myself by finally being me